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02 Jun 2017 16:16 #249374 by Black Barney
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NoGoblinsAllowed is for Magic players, i really like it there. The Duels subforum is where all the fun is

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02 Jun 2017 16:23 #249375 by stormseeker75
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The Shadow War area on BGG is pretty good, but that's probably because it's championed by Joel Eddy and Charlie Theel.

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02 Jun 2017 17:37 #249380 by jeb
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I've tried the r/boardgame thing at Reddit. It's a cacophonous mess. There are lots of folks there though, which is nice. I always had a nice time in the ARKHAM HORROR threads at BGG, racing with ColtFan76 to answer rules questions (and losing). The TITAN threads there are solid as well.

The only other communities I have any regular exposure to are BoingBoing, Twitter, and ArsTechnica.
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02 Jun 2017 18:10 - 02 Jun 2017 18:10 #249382 by Gary Sax
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I like Arstechnica too, but the (IMHO) inhumane tech geek libertarian thing really grated on me at some point so I stopped going.
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02 Jun 2017 18:14 #249383 by Colorcrayons
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I think there is a high degree of quality to be found on bgg, but the signal gets lost in the noise.

The main drawback of small communities such as this is how cults of personality develop. It happens on larger sites as well, but its less easy to ignore in smaller communities.

I'm a member of many online miniature gaming forums, but rarely visit them anymore other than to lurk and research and ask the occasional question if need be.

Face book groups are pretty banal, even when anonimity is taken away, which I fi d to be interesting since people say anonimity is why we get such trolls on online fora.

I dont play nearly enough games lately to include myself in much relevant discussion here, sadly. I hope to rectify that, but real world problems prevent such pass times ATM.
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03 Jun 2017 11:01 #249386 by GorillaGrody
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I've been lurking a long time, but this thread made me a little sad, so I thought I'd sign up and say hi. My first post. I've been reading F:AT for a couple of years now and I love it. That is all.

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03 Jun 2017 12:18 #249388 by Black Barney
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You know, now that u mention it, It did feel like we were being watched
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03 Jun 2017 16:10 #249390 by Stonecutter
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Gregarius wrote: I still frequent BGG, but mainly just for the database, blogs, and groups of friends I've made. I vastly prefer the game discussion that occurs here.

I'm curious, though-- how pervasive is the BGG mindset? I completely agree with the criticisms already mentioned, but has anyone tried having a thoughtful discussion in a particular game's forum? Something like Earth: Reborn, as an example. I really have no idea, so it's an honest question. I just wonder if the vast majority of BGGers stay on the surface and hot new games, and maybe some valuable conversations happen somewhere in the bowels.

On a separate but related note, BGG is also quite a bit of a bubble. There are huge sections of boardgamers who ignore it. I know Reddit has quite a large group, but I'm too old to try to fit in over there. Do any of you frequent any other game sites?


I'm putting on my asshole armchair psychologist hat here

BGG isn't as pervasive as it thinks it is, but my god, everyone who goes there and gets into it develops a brain disease, at least for a few years, where they become one of those BGG people. r/boardgames is the exact same in this sense. Priggish and pedantic.

I think a big part of the problem is that the people who care enough about boardgames to seek out places like BGG and r/boardgames are the kinds of people who *buy* boardgames, and the kinds of people who buy boardgames are the kinds of people who can afford to buy boardgames, which either means people without kids, which has a huge overlap with antisocial (male) nerds, or, if they have kids, the managerial class.

Now those two groups produce more reactionaries than just about any other two subsets of society, so even the ones who have enough patience to play boardgames still come from those same cultures where everything triggers their resentment and their. need. to. be. right. about. every. single. thing.

So you have these... assholes... who cannot ever stand being challenged, and you combine it with a dozen or so anointed tastemakers who need excited viewers and suddenly everything new is always amazing!
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03 Jun 2017 21:47 #249395 by san il defanso
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In the early days of /r/boardgames I was fairly active there. I wouldn't call myself a power user or anything, but it suffered like BGG did from the explosion of the hobby's popularity. It became very difficult to post anything that took a critical eye toward the hobby, or that championed games that were not "in." I took enormous amounts of crap there for trying to tell people Talisman was good, and I also took a surprising amount of guff when I wrote those articles several years ago about the lack of historical roots in the hobby. I don't know why they got defensive about that kind of thing, but there it is.

There have been a couple of Facebook groups where I've been active, but they have all been composed of friends who I know in real life. We would frequently post to find nights to game together, or to share things we found funny. Those were a lot of fun, but were basically just reflections of my friends in real life.

The collector bug is really prevalent in this hobby, and has been for a long time. But it definitely feels like it "won," and those of us who would rather use board games as a vessel to make friends are left wondering what happened. That's how I feel anyway. I swear, every move makes it harder and harder to find that really good group.
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04 Jun 2017 11:03 #249406 by Motorik
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DdJ posts at TOS.

DdJ doesn't post here.

Ergo: this place wins.
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04 Jun 2017 12:08 #249407 by jeb
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The guy knows his TITAN though!

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04 Jun 2017 12:31 - 04 Jun 2017 12:34 #249408 by Cranberries
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Stonecutter wrote:
I think a big part of the problem is that the people who care enough about boardgames to seek out places like BGG and r/boardgames are the kinds of people who *buy* boardgames, and the kinds of people who buy boardgames are the kinds of people who can afford to buy boardgames, which either means people without kids, which has a huge overlap with antisocial (male) nerds, or, if they have kids, the managerial class.

Now those two groups produce more reactionaries than just about any other two subsets of society, so even the ones who have enough patience to play boardgames still come from those same cultures where everything triggers their resentment and their. need. to. be. right. about. every. single. thing.

So you have these... assholes... who cannot ever stand being challenged, and you combine it with a dozen or so anointed tastemakers who need excited viewers and suddenly everything new is always amazing!


I cannot fully describe my joy at reading this.

I swear, every move makes it harder and harder to find that really good group

I keep thinking of Robert Putnam's Bowling Alone, about the erosion of social life in America. And one day, I may actually read one of my three copies. I just picked up his book on religion in America, which I suspect has some bearing on obsessive hobbies as well.
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04 Jun 2017 12:53 #249409 by NeonPeon
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san il defanso wrote: Is anyone here familiar with the Board Game Revolution Facebook group? It's kind of a new place for BGG escapees, except it's horrible.

Not that group, but I follow the Boardgamegeek group and it's a mixture of good and bad, like BGG itself. Sometimes it gets really cringey, like when yesterday a poster said Wits & Wagers is a good game for playing with "the muggles." Then there are just puzzling perspectives, like if a game allows one player to win in a landslide (Blood Rage in this case), then it is an "awful, awful, awful" game. I could understand if such landslides were inevitable every game but that's not the case here, at least as I understand it...

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04 Jun 2017 16:19 - 04 Jun 2017 16:20 #249410 by quozl
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the_jake_1973 wrote: Jack,
I will talk at length about Merchants & Marauders. That continues to be not only one of my favorite games in my collection, but the best pirating game I've played. Christian Marcussen's pirate is one of the best due to the storms invulnerability. Although, it may be because storms seem to happen a lot in our games.


Yeah, we get plenty of storms since we use the storm token with the wind rules from the expansion.
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04 Jun 2017 17:18 - 04 Jun 2017 17:19 #249411 by Jexik
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cranberries wrote:

stormseeker75 wrote: May. It will happen.

Seriously though, BGG is terrible. Worse than ever. Too many people who don't want to contribute, they just want to be right.


As someone who isn't especially funny and tests high for Asperger's, even I can't stand what passes for humor in the discussions at BGG, with a few notable exceptions.


It's never too late to reference The Princess Bride or Monty Python. Or to quote Star Wars just because. Or a mashup. Because mashups are great.

Also... why Doctor Who?

To Nate though... I agree that the level of discussion is good, even if it's not a discussion I can actively participate in, and you guys clearly don't like X-Wing enough anymore.
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