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The only other communities I have any regular exposure to are BoingBoing, Twitter, and ArsTechnica.
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The main drawback of small communities such as this is how cults of personality develop. It happens on larger sites as well, but its less easy to ignore in smaller communities.
I'm a member of many online miniature gaming forums, but rarely visit them anymore other than to lurk and research and ask the occasional question if need be.
Face book groups are pretty banal, even when anonimity is taken away, which I fi d to be interesting since people say anonimity is why we get such trolls on online fora.
I dont play nearly enough games lately to include myself in much relevant discussion here, sadly. I hope to rectify that, but real world problems prevent such pass times ATM.
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Gregarius wrote: I still frequent BGG, but mainly just for the database, blogs, and groups of friends I've made. I vastly prefer the game discussion that occurs here.
I'm curious, though-- how pervasive is the BGG mindset? I completely agree with the criticisms already mentioned, but has anyone tried having a thoughtful discussion in a particular game's forum? Something like Earth: Reborn, as an example. I really have no idea, so it's an honest question. I just wonder if the vast majority of BGGers stay on the surface and hot new games, and maybe some valuable conversations happen somewhere in the bowels.
On a separate but related note, BGG is also quite a bit of a bubble. There are huge sections of boardgamers who ignore it. I know Reddit has quite a large group, but I'm too old to try to fit in over there. Do any of you frequent any other game sites?
I'm putting on my asshole armchair psychologist hat here
BGG isn't as pervasive as it thinks it is, but my god, everyone who goes there and gets into it develops a brain disease, at least for a few years, where they become one of those BGG people. r/boardgames is the exact same in this sense. Priggish and pedantic.
I think a big part of the problem is that the people who care enough about boardgames to seek out places like BGG and r/boardgames are the kinds of people who *buy* boardgames, and the kinds of people who buy boardgames are the kinds of people who can afford to buy boardgames, which either means people without kids, which has a huge overlap with antisocial (male) nerds, or, if they have kids, the managerial class.
Now those two groups produce more reactionaries than just about any other two subsets of society, so even the ones who have enough patience to play boardgames still come from those same cultures where everything triggers their resentment and their. need. to. be. right. about. every. single. thing.
So you have these... assholes... who cannot ever stand being challenged, and you combine it with a dozen or so anointed tastemakers who need excited viewers and suddenly everything new is always amazing!
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There have been a couple of Facebook groups where I've been active, but they have all been composed of friends who I know in real life. We would frequently post to find nights to game together, or to share things we found funny. Those were a lot of fun, but were basically just reflections of my friends in real life.
The collector bug is really prevalent in this hobby, and has been for a long time. But it definitely feels like it "won," and those of us who would rather use board games as a vessel to make friends are left wondering what happened. That's how I feel anyway. I swear, every move makes it harder and harder to find that really good group.
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DdJ doesn't post here.
Ergo: this place wins.
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Stonecutter wrote:
I think a big part of the problem is that the people who care enough about boardgames to seek out places like BGG and r/boardgames are the kinds of people who *buy* boardgames, and the kinds of people who buy boardgames are the kinds of people who can afford to buy boardgames, which either means people without kids, which has a huge overlap with antisocial (male) nerds, or, if they have kids, the managerial class.
Now those two groups produce more reactionaries than just about any other two subsets of society, so even the ones who have enough patience to play boardgames still come from those same cultures where everything triggers their resentment and their. need. to. be. right. about. every. single. thing.
So you have these... assholes... who cannot ever stand being challenged, and you combine it with a dozen or so anointed tastemakers who need excited viewers and suddenly everything new is always amazing!
I cannot fully describe my joy at reading this.
I keep thinking of Robert Putnam's Bowling Alone, about the erosion of social life in America. And one day, I may actually read one of my three copies. I just picked up his book on religion in America, which I suspect has some bearing on obsessive hobbies as well.I swear, every move makes it harder and harder to find that really good group
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Not that group, but I follow the Boardgamegeek group and it's a mixture of good and bad, like BGG itself. Sometimes it gets really cringey, like when yesterday a poster said Wits & Wagers is a good game for playing with "the muggles." Then there are just puzzling perspectives, like if a game allows one player to win in a landslide (Blood Rage in this case), then it is an "awful, awful, awful" game. I could understand if such landslides were inevitable every game but that's not the case here, at least as I understand it...san il defanso wrote: Is anyone here familiar with the Board Game Revolution Facebook group? It's kind of a new place for BGG escapees, except it's horrible.
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the_jake_1973 wrote: Jack,
I will talk at length about Merchants & Marauders. That continues to be not only one of my favorite games in my collection, but the best pirating game I've played. Christian Marcussen's pirate is one of the best due to the storms invulnerability. Although, it may be because storms seem to happen a lot in our games.
Yeah, we get plenty of storms since we use the storm token with the wind rules from the expansion.
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stormseeker75 wrote: May. It will happen.
Seriously though, BGG is terrible. Worse than ever. Too many people who don't want to contribute, they just want to be right.
As someone who isn't especially funny and tests high for Asperger's, even I can't stand what passes for humor in the discussions at BGG, with a few notable exceptions.
It's never too late to reference The Princess Bride or Monty Python. Or to quote Star Wars just because. Or a mashup. Because mashups are great.
Also... why Doctor Who?
To Nate though... I agree that the level of discussion is good, even if it's not a discussion I can actively participate in, and you guys clearly don't like X-Wing enough anymore.
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