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Cultural accuracy and Lang's 'Rising Sun'
My gaming group has enjoyed 'Chaos in the Old World,' and 'Blood Rage.' This title was high on our theoretical wish list, especially for our South Korean member who is a big scholar of Japanese history.
Well, he's pissed.
His comments to the gaming group:
"I pledged the $100 for the game. While I'm sure the game design will be le awesome, the designs of the figures to me are disappointing. They're really more based on Chinese mythology and history than Japanese. And the video was fucking annoying cause the narrator mispronounced every single Japanese word used like a typical American barbarian.
It seems to be both and as the stretch goals get released, I'm feeling less and less enthused about this game. Did I expect a pinpoint historically accurate game about Japanese feudal conflicts? No. I understand we are really playing a game with giant monsters and sorcery. However, it would have been nice if there had been SOME consideration toward keeping influences mainly Japanese. And I can say they are not. They are mostly Chinese. One of the stretch goals was a fucking kung fu Panda for god's sake. Another is a witch with a Gandalf pointy hat on. At this point, just change the name of the game to Chaos in the Old Oriental World. Pretty fucking disheartening as an Asian American who likes board games."
And then in true internet fashion, my friend went full-on FLAME WAR in the KS comment section. Admittedly, any KS comment page quickly boils into a cesspool. After some back and forth with CMON/Lang fanboys, he wrote this:
"A troll? Or just another Asian American tired of seeing the different Asian cultures mishmashed into some whitewashed stereotype yet again for the consumption of entertainment? I ask YOU."
So I don't know. I'm pretty conflicted between game design and cultural ignorance. In the end, I suspect we'll pass on 'Rising Sun' and keep playing Lang's other (derivative) stuff: Midgard > Chaos in the Old World > Blood Rage. *
* Actually, it'll probably just be Blood Rage and Cthulhu Wars...
AND we'll probably grab a copy of Ikusa somewhere.
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I don't know Eric Lang personally, but he is definitely not the type to willfully offend people. Granted, once the contract is signed, he pretty much gets no say, most likely.
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JEM wrote: half-baked orientalism, .
Cultural crudo ?
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I honestly can't remember. Was Shogun / Samurai Swords / Ikusa horrible?
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Anyway, I can see why your pal is disappointed, but as I read the Kickstarter description, it leads with "Clans must use politics, strength and honor to rule the land in this board game with amazing miniatures set in legendary feudal Japan." (Emphasis mine.) If anything, he should be worried that this game appears to be too similar to various other modern DoaM games, and is overpriced unless you love the minis.
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boardgamegeek.com/thread/1741362/using-term-pimping-offensive
They're fucking GAMES people.
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If you go looking for dog shit on the beach, you're going to find it.
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